Shadow Owner's Club
- SHOC -

-= SHOC FAQ =-

(SHOC? Whats this? What happened to our beloved SOC? - Well, I was contacted recently by SOC (Suzuki Owner's Club) who are holding their 25th anniversary and although they amicably suggested that 2 motorcycle clubs with the same name could exist side by side, just like two people with the same name, the "Shadow Owner's Club" needs to be as unique as possible... Which is why, when SHOC was suggested, recently, and it clicked much better than the sock references we have been getting (hehe)... well...
Also, Honda already have their own HOC (Honda Owner's Club) and us, hogging SOC, being -Honda- riders would be a bit greedy, don't you think? I've searched the net, as usual, and have not found any other motorcycle clubs out there called "SHOC"... So, ShOC it is. "Are you in Shoc?" - hehe... Yes, it lends itself well to recruiting... and now begin the ineviatable puns!)

Note: For NET purposes, this page will now be called "SHOC.HTML", although the old SOC page will be about, since search engines are slow to change.

SHOC PATCH
(...and the contestants are...)

Patch #1

#0 Votes:
Dan O'Kash
Benner
Lo Sheng The Great
Bones
Donna
Roger Stansell
Loek Geraedts
Walter D. Brentano Robb Blanchette
 Bournehall
 
#2

#30 Votes:
Biff
KaDarth
LaChapelle
ShadoRydr (Tony)
Al
Hans
Muhammad Razin
Lynnie
KaDarth
Doug
Gojjo
Billy Towler
Bullhead City Bob
Jerry Liu
Bernie (Horker)
Eric Raketic
Don1100
Serge Bousquet
Steelhorss
InTheFlame
Jimmy Berry
Rick Lawrence
KickStart
Bill Weber
Dial H
Darcy Marche (Darkside)
DarthNader Jr
Ronnie Hinton
Steelhorss
Smitty
Steve Merrill
(Sweett) Julie
Terry Tompkins
Ron (Tank)

#3

#2 Votes:
RWRyds
MLHodges
Bev
Owen Berry


#4

#3 Votes:
Joe Meagher
Adam Clay
Theo
 Vax69
TONY Conway
Helge Hammer
Ken Murphy


#5

#4 Votes:
DonAndrew
Billie
Monica Rooyakkers
 Matjaz Erjavec


Patch day draws ever closer!

Each of these has a slight change in them... Please let me know which one appeals MOST to you. I want everyone's opinion, that means YOURS too... so let me know NOW by eMail which of the four you prefer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5 (Great to hear from all of you.Thanks)

- SHOC NEWS -

Bad News! (29.May.98)

The local patch maker, who is in contact with UK has said they can't make the patch. Thats the final word on that matter. Again, please, if you know a patch maker, please ask them to give you a quote on the design. Very possibly we are talking about 200 (to start with) of BOTH #0 and #1!

While the pressure is up to try and find a local patch maker... The plan is: (03.98)

• Find an patchmaker to make "prototypes"
• Send "prototypes" to Reps...
• Reps. then propose the prototypes to patchmakers local to them.
• Less expensive patches are mass produced there.
• :-) The reps then contact me and tell me where the lest expensive one is...

Other Details

26 th Dec97: More of these "reliable" sources have confirmed that the curving of the "Shadow" logo in patches #0 and #1 will ensure that there is enough difference between the original and the changed version to prevent serious legal action. Further (perhaps more authortitative) sources state/confirm that no motorcycle manufacturer (except Harley Davidson) have ever sued a motorcycle club for use of their logo (free advertising and all that).

17 th Dec 97: Reliable information from people who have had to deal with Honda on legalities state that any use of Honda owned logos or ideas or designs or etc. will/can lead to legal problems vs. Honda, and so should be abandoned, before the legal stuff starts. This means #0 and #1 are out of the picture... Sorry... Also, the bike must not look too much like a Honda, as that will infringe too... So, until I hear from Honda authorising the use of the Logo and picture and anything else needed to make the patch proper, its on "hold". HOWEVER... since the patch is to be sewed, the end picture of motorcycle/logo, etc. will not look much like the original... except from a distance... But you know what they say... "from a distance, you look like my friend, even though we are at war..."

SHOC WORLD CONTACTS

SHOC - Argentina, Santa Fe, Mariano De Dios (Motomorfosis), eMail

SHOC - Australia, Sydney, Richard Andrews, eMail (Will not have eMail long, so phone: 0419 489 299.)

SHOC - Canada, Bon Accord, Alberta, John Spooner email

SHOC - Canada, British Columbia, BC Port Alberni, Al E. Rider eMail

SHOC - Canada, British Columbia, Victoria, Brad Good, eMail

SHOC - Canada, Nova Scotia, Halifax, Larry Rafuse eMail

SHOC - Canada, Ontario, Burlington, Don Andrew eMail

SHOC - Canada, Ontario, Toronto, Carmen, eMail - Special Page

SHOC - Canada, Saskatchewan, Jim Aho, email

SHOC - Germany: Steinfurt, Klaus Mehlich, eMail

SHOC - Holland: Hans eMail <== (Now rides a Suzuki 1500 LC, loved his Shadow, though!)

SHOC - Iceland, Reykjavik: Thor Ingason, eMail - Page<== (Now rides a Suzuki 1500 LC! Ditto!)

SHOC - Italy: Vax69, eMail

SHOC - Indonesia: (Bandung), Hendra G Pasaribu, eMail<==Newest (4.August.98)

SHOC - Ireland: Ian Lush eMail

SHOC - Japan, Iwakuni, Thomas E. Kopp (The Duck), eMail - QUACK! -

SHOC - Japan, Misawa, Terry Ray Emory eMail

SHOC - Malaysia: Muhammad Razin eMail

SHOC - Mauritius: soon (Ki maiere? To bien, la?)

SHOC - Netherlands: Carlos Bermudez eMail

SHOC - Singapore - eMail

SHOC - South Africa: Murrey du Toit (The Rat) - eMail (Amazing SOC Story!) <==SOC really works!

SHOC - Sweden: Johan Fristedt eMail - Page <== New eMail address

SHOC - Thailand: Serge F. Bousquet eMail

SHOC - UK: ShadBro eMail (Also any UK based Shadow activities, contact)

SHOC - USA, Arizona, Bullhead City Bob, eMail

SHOC - USA, Arizona, Phoenix, Jeremy Williams eMail or Pat Gill eMail

SHOC - USA, California, Fresno, Steve Merrill eMail

SHOC - USA, California, Lakewood, Mark Hudkins eMail - Page - Page<==Contact for rides!!! (Please)

SHOC - USA, California, Los Angeles - eMail

SHOC - USA, Florida, South Florida, Marty & Diane Lurie - eMail <==Contact for rides NOW! (Please)

SHOC - USA, Georgia, Gainesville, Ted and Tina Wilbanks eMail

SHOC - USA, Illinois, Michael D. Berk, eMail

SHOC - USA, Kansas, Kansas City, western Missouri and eastern Kansas, Brian Tunks, eMail

SHOC - USA, Dracut, Massachusetts, Marty Sullivan , eMail

SHOC - USA, USA, Massachusetts, Dan Nash , eMail

SHOC - USA, Maryland, Baltimore, Richard McCormick, eMail

SHOC - USA, Michigan, John eMail

SHOC - USA, New York, Brooklyn, Roberto Torres, eMail or eMail

SHOC - USA, New Jersey, Owen Berry, eMail

SHOC - USA, North Carolina, Kannapolis, Steve Jordan eMail - Page

SHOC - USA, Ohio, Columbus,HoneyB & Bonzaibudy, eMail <==Contact for rides NOW!!!(6/98)

SHOC - USA, Oklahoma, Salina, Tony Conway eMail

SHOC - USA, Pennsylvania, Allentown, Brian Phillips - eMail

SHOC - USA, Tennessee, Atoka, Rick Perry, eMail

SHOC - USA, Tennessee, Clinton, Terry Crawford & Linda - eMail

SHOC - USA, Texas, Austin, (Soon)

SHOC - USA, Texas, Midland, John Bumpers - eMail<==Contact for rides, NOW! (Please)

SHOC - USA, Texas, Plano, Jim "Kickstand" Russell eMail - Page <==Shadow Riders Club Page (SRC)

SHOC - USA, Utah, Salt Lake Valley, Jeff Watkins eMail

SHOC - USA, Virginia, Ashburn, Robert Orsino, eMail - Page

SHOC - USA, Viginia, West Virginia, Dave "KickStart", eMail

SHOC - USA, Washington, Vancouver, Jerry "Bubba" Smith eMail - Page

 

People ask: "How do I become a SHOC Rep? (Representative of the Shadow Owner's Club).

Simple: Drop me a line by eMail, stating you'd like to be a rep, and you will be here next weekend. Please include your Country, State, City, your preferred eMail address for SHOC correspondence (if different from you normal one), the address of your web page (if you have one) and your NAME. Thats all.

 

Many people have expressed a preference for a club without beurocracy or were something is expected of members. To answer demand for such a club, the Shadow Owners Club exists. You can easily be a member of any other club and still be a member of SHOC. If you would like other Shadow Owners to get in touch with you, or to get in touch with Shadow Owners in your area, please let me know, and your name will be on this page. The aim is to make this club as international as possible. The areas above labeled "soon" means someone has expressed an interest in becoming a rep in that area, we just have to wait for confirmation. Some people will want to establish special eMail accounts to handle the SOC mail. So things take time.

SHOC REP INFO

SHOC Reps have been getting all sorts of questions that really should be directed to pages and forums set up for specially for that. Most SOC Reps will be busy handling local mail and having to answer the same questions again and again can be tiring and time consuming. Hence I include here the places to direct general inquiries...

The best place to get information about Shadows is at one of these places, which have been set up specially to handle all types of questions in one place, with lots of Shadow owners answering, so you get the opinions of more than one person:

• SRC MAILING LIST (Shadow Rider's Club Mailing List) You send in your question and they reply to you individually, or you can subscribe to the mailing list, and get mail about all the various activities and reactions directly by eMail. http://web2.airmail.net/jrussell/Shad_FAQ2.htm
• SHADOW FORUM. This is an amazing place where you can read up on all sorts of Shadow related activities and put in your own questions. Also features a Shadow Forum CHAT! Where you can chat with other Shadow owners. http://www.customforum.com/hondashadow/
• SHADOW OWNERS. This is a bit of a last resort... You could get in touch with people who have their bikes on display on the Shadow Home Page. Some may not be as pleased about this as others, but most will point you in the right direction. If not just to the above places.

Just paste the above text to any eMail that asks for general information that can best be handled by these pages.

SHOC NEWS

Some have been asking... and this is for them...

• 12.Feb.2001: THE SHADOW OWNER'S CLUB PROJECT IS BACK!
  ... and there you were, thinking we didn't care about you! Where's your sense of justice! No, no... We're BACK and we're on a roll again... This time we have LOADS of previous experience... and even an exisitng SHOC club in Sweden!!! YEEEHAW! - I must say... They deserve a LOT of credit, for keeping a good thing going... never losing sight of the dream... and then, MAKING IT HAPPEN! Congratulations Sweden!

• 24.Jan 98: Ok ... You may think I'm insane... but: Have you seen the logo on the new Shadows? Its made in an "old style" font, you know like Buicks and Fords in the old days... Has anyone scanned one yet? Or have a picture of the letters, or the name of that kind of font? I'd very much like to use THAT font on the letters outside, on the patch. As if thats not enough... I have been sat in front of a Honda Riders Club of America patch for days before it struck me... It has some pretty good wings (the Honda Sign itself)... Here we go... Its always good to offer/have alternatives!
• 08.Dec.97: Warnings of legal difficulties that others have had with Honda concerning Honda Logos and likenesses have started coming in. Apparently Honda can sue if anything is used that they have a copyright on. "Shadow" can be used technically because it could, and must refer to anything BUT the motorcycle, even on the Owners Club Patch. I'd ask for their approval and support of this Club, but I can't get anyone to answer at Honda ANYWHERE! I have also been told that this is perhaps a good thing, as the answers others have got have been beurocratic and very legal sounding. So, folks, apparently, its ok to establish a club for people that have "shadows", so long as these shadows are not motorcycles that Honda has made. (Are you laughing yet? What else can one do?)... Still, this means the Shadow Logo in the patch above will have to go... Sorry! Only patches that do NOT have the fancy tank "Shadow" logo are "allowed". There may yet be another patch in the works.... lets see...
• 22.July.97: Comments received about the chosen patch. People got in touch with me asking if I didn't feel #1 above was stating SHADOW twice... So I am offering people to vote... If you prefer the patch without the SHADOW Logo, please vote for the one you like best. Together we stand.
• 16.July.97: Wording problem solved by artist. The guy helping me with the patch, who will eventually have it made, solved the wording problem, and above you can see the ALMOST final version of the Shadow Owners Club Patch... The empty areas on both sides of the sign have been a source of discussion, and quite possibly there will be a solution to this soon.
• 14.July.97: THANK YOU for your kind and constructive comments... and I agree... The bottom line is going! It has been suggested that an OVAL is the way to go with this shape of sign... so, thats the way we will go.
  • The whole symbol will be in an OVAL shape (horizontally long).
  • Outside that OVAL circle will be the letters: SHADOW (top) and "OWNERS CLUB" in one line (along the bottom).
  • Then there will be another OVAL on the outside, closing the patch off.
  • The patch is designed to be on the upper arm of a jacket... but people can put it where they like.
  • Different places is the world will / may add something to the symbol, but the central sign must be similar to the original. I mean, one group would like a picture of an ACE, not a VT1100 ... and thats totally acceptable, so long as its facing front, in the same way as the original patch. Please. Lets maintain a universally recognisable common symbol.
  • I am still very much in favour of anyone taking the symbol and making patches wherever they are in the world, but please let me know how many were made, and how much it cost (a sample would also be welcome, if you can afford it). I will then let others know, and if it is economical, we will ask that patchmaker to make more at similar prices.
  • You will notice, the SHADOW logo is twisted, this is because:
    • It fits better, making the top 'round, to fit the OVAL.
    • I cound not find an eMail address of ANYONE at Honda to ask permission to use the Logo, and although local Honda dealers claimed there will not be a problem, they refused to give permission in writing, so we don't get the original logo, because of the trademark. Still... Doesn't it look ok to you? (better even? Ok, I won't push it!)
      
• 12.July.97: Well... as you can see above, the SOC Design is done. Its not QUITE the final version, but it is the general idea. The "OWNERS CLUB" text may end up above the wings... but I'm glad its finally done.. PHEW! It has taken many nights to find the right program to do this stuff... It may look simple... but you don't see the installing Freehand 7, deinstalling it, installing Freehand 5.5, deinstalling it (it didn't do what I thought it would... Then Photoshop, then Digital Darkroom (all of which came with my scanners)... phew, its been a mess... But now... I have to sit back and hear what you lot think about it... Be honest... Please... Could you wear this with pride on your upper arm... or wherever? Its YOUR club, you tell me... :-) I love you too.

OLDER SUGGESTIONS

• Shadow Tank Motif Suggestion: "We already have a cool motif on the tank, so why not use it." (This suggestion was eMailed in, and used.)
• Oval Wings Suggestion: Oval design, which has the Honda Wings... possible skull instead of Honda sign... (hehe... this idea was semi abandoned, but shape re-surfaced).
• Circle or Shield Discussion... with bike coming forward as the picture... If nothing else turns up, we could use the forward pic of one of the Shadows on the Shadow Home Page (embossed and outlined). (This idea was more or less abandoned)

INTRODUCTION
Dear Shadow Owners... when I could not find World Wide Web Pages dedicated to my favorite motorcycle (and yours), I decided to sit down and make the pages I wished I would have found. Alone without a scanner *sniff* I would have got no-where... until I found some pictures of Shadows on the Honda of Milpitas web pages... I applied to use them, and was received very well, and was told that all their pictures were at my disposal... :-) Many thanks to them...

Then I sought to find organisations for Shadow owners... and found first the Shadow Riders Club-USA with it's Communications Director, Jim "Kickstand" Russell, then the Shadow Club-USA, with its President Chuck Cottrell... and found both clubs had / have the same aim, to unite Shadow riders (and riders of other brands) in the USA.

Then came support for all sides, with individual Shadow Owners sending in pictures of their prized possessions... and themselves... and before we knew it, the pages grew into the Honda Shadow Home Page, complete with Shadow Owner's Pages... Now comes the next step in the logical progression. A Shadow Owner's Club, which will start as humbly as the net pages... with an easily identifiable badge / patch.

This badge will help to identify the wearer as being or having been a proud Shadow Owner, and he will be approached by others all over the world, who recognise, or wear the same badge / patch, as, whatever their club afiliations, they will know what each other felt when riding their Shadows, and this will be their common bond.

Shadow Owner's Club (SHOC)

(Some of the information below is out dated. This is included as a refernece to what concepts were originally discussed.)

CONCEPT DESCRIPTION
It will not have true "colors"... only a patch... and it has been suggested that, although the words will be "(top) Shadow Owners - (bottom) Club" it may have (possibly) a choice of patche motifs (picture in the middle) too...

Suggestions so far:

• Basic patches will have a picture of the VLX, ACE 750, VT1100, ACE, Spirit and Tourer... and you wear the patch of your bike. The name of the bike will not appear (unless people want it to be there! Majority rules).
  
  
• Basic "Shadow Owner's Club" (or simply "SHADOW OWNERS - CLUB") without picture. Patch could have a shape... like a shield, or other official shape.
  
  
• Depending on permission, the Shadow tank logo could be used as the motif (picture). This has got good response, but is subject to permission from Honda. *ahem* I am told this will not be THAT much of a problem (source "Honda Iceland").
  
  
• Suggestions for other motifs (pictures), like a skull, for those into that and a Japanese Noh Mask for those who want that... etc. I was also sent a pretty cool idea for a patch recently of a black monster (shadow) with white glaring eyes... Thats for those who like that... Anyone can have what they want, so long as the basic lettering is there... In fact, it might give people a reason to collect them! So the more the merrier!
  • (I know there is no skull in the final version (and I did want one)... but "we are not pirates", as someone pointed out... (much to my displeasure)... but I can see his point, and am willing to abandon my pet idea for the sake of union.
    
• (02.03.97) It has been suggested that: Instead of ACE, VT, VLX, etc. that the motif be the picture of a Shadow head on, and thus the actual model will not matter. I'd like your feedback on this. Are there other logos out there like that? Everything needs to be discussed.

BASIC BADGE/PATCH CONCEPT
A circle/shape, with only: (top) SHADOW OWNERS - (bottom) CLUB. (I realise it may need an apostrophe in the "Owner's"... for linguists, but these are cosmetics, and it looks better without it.)


FONT SUGGESTIONS
The letters should be shadow only... this is achieved by selecting white as the letter color, and typing it on a white background. That way, you only get the shadow of each letter...

• Times font is nice, although
• Helvetica is more clear from afar, and
• Old English adds some mystery... but is harder to read from any distance.

(I look forward to suggestions, and examples, if you would like to try your hand at designing a patch.)

REASONS TO BE CHEERFUL PART 3

There are many who feel the need for an independent club that does not have any other direction than uniting Shadow Owners... The point being... Sometimes they are the only people on a Shadow in their area (England for example, where Shadows are a rather rare and expensive import/luxory) and understandably owners there want to have a patch that identifies them... as do Holland, Belgium, Germany, Iceland, Canada, Australia, USA, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, South America, Africa, Indonesia, Japan, Portugal, Italy, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Swiss, England, France, Greece, Cyprus, Israel, etc. to name but a few of the many people who have contacted me...

I want, most of all, to get your views on this, as its in its discussion phase at the moment...
rorsino@loudoun.com

Motions put forward:

• A badge is all the membership that is required. To get a badge (or badges) a person must register (name and address will do), and registration will cost the price of the badge plus postage and packing only. If a newsletter is ever made, a sponsor will be found, and the addresses given will be used to send the letter to.
  
  
• To get the best distribution, anyone can become a distributor of badges... AND if they can get a badge made more economically than existing ones, they are welcome to make and sell them as they like (it would be nice to hear from them, though, so everyone benefits from the economical badge making deal, it would help the rest of us get inexpensive badges made too, lowering cost all 'round).

What the Badge/Patch Represents

The person wearing it must at some stage in their lifetime have owned (and ridden) a Shadow.

Simple huh?

People can and will add their opinions as they like, and put forward additions and changes and/or advice as to how THEY would go about doing things. All opinions/advice will be considered, and possibly put to the vote by those who are registered... Hopefully the internet will help there.

The thing I like best about this, is it's simplicity...

A badge/patch is all that is needed... and its easily sent through the mail, and duplicated by anyone interested in promoting unity among Shadow Owners. It will not pit brother against brother, as we are all owners of Shadows! The concept is simple enough... and much enthusiasm is already there... and has been from the beginning... sorry for the delay.

OPTIONAL HANDSHAKE
No... don't laugh... I'd even like to propose an optional bortherhood handshake, which is a progression of the normal handshake upwards, to a catching of the thumb... slap catching of each other's thumb, you know, like the "black power" handshake... but rather than be a racist statement, it will be a sign of brotherhood/unity... *ahem* I've been known to go too far, sometimes... but, as I said, its just an optional/additional sign to unite us even further... Hehe... most people will probably forget/ignore this... but if you remember it, its a nice way to greet a brother or sister in company... and a sign of friendship, and an international expression unity. (Picture of the handshake will be put here when one is available. Its a bit like that thumb grabbed arm wrestling lock.)

SHOC VIBRATOR?
Just kidding... I know when to say when! (However, I'm open to discussions on the subject, if there is a genuine interest in this product). It has been suggested that the SHOC vibrator might actually be an old Harley.

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